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posted by dag 2 years ago • 1316 views

Bad News:  You can't have one ... read below

 

So, I just got back from my 2 day camping trip up to Binna Burra, and I was thrilled to find the express mail soft envelope which could only mean one thing.  My shirt has arrived.  I ordered a couple to beta test while we are still getting the store going.  I tried it on, and it fits well, the shirt is good quality and the silk screened logo looks great.

 Next stop was my pile of email (no laptop on the camp trip).  I was dissapointed to get this mail from our PrintMojo rep:  (PrintMojo is the printing and fulfillment house that we are using for the new tees.)

Your online store was just flagged by our legal staff. We understand that you have the intellectual rights to VideoSift because you own it J.

YouTube however is owned by Google and we can’t in good conscience let the store go live any more than we could if Google was trying to use Videosift on a T-shirt in a Mojo store.

http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78802261  

I have to apologize that we didn’t catch it in the process. We catch 99.9% of them in the art phase of the cycle. You are in fact only the 3rd to slip through in 4 years.     

 We will of course waive the normal screen and film fees we charge when a merchant has all their products shipped to them when they close their account . We will also ship the garments to you on our dime because we missed it.  

We can't give you legal advice, however once you have the printed t-shirts back, it's up to you as to whether you want to take the risk and try to sell them on your site.We simply can’t allow the store to sell them now that we know about the infringement. 

 So there we are.  On the one hand I can totally understand their point of view- but I thought that since we are not actually using the YouTube logo, it would slide.  (IANAL obviously)

So now that we have the process down, we will probably try another batch perhaps with "*promote VideoSift"  for the logo. 

 What to do with this initial load of 100 tees then?  Well, I'm thinking they will be "limited edition" collector items - and we might make them available as prizes for a series of contests?

 Anyone have a good idea for some contests we could try?

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I suppose this could have been a ST post as it's Sift related, but I'm enjoying all the blog action lately.


written by dag  | 2 years ago | CH
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NOOOOO!!!! That's an awesome shirt!
What if you wrote a letter to them asking for permission? At best, it's free advertising, and at worst, it's still free advertising!
[edit] hell, you could slap a tiiiiny "TM" on there if they really care.


written by MarineGunrock  | 2 years ago | CH
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In your other post you did say you were hoping the Sift would broaden the percentage of non-YouTube video hosts. How 'bout this as a more general slogan:

"VideoSift killed the webcam star."

Doesn't that cover the intended target.


http://blog.videosift.com/dag/Lots-of-Good-Flash-Video-Sites-Out-There


Or, how about just using the slogan that appears in the top of the browser window:

"VideoSift: Online Video *Quality Control"

That is that motto that we haggled over.


written by dotdude  | 2 years ago | CH
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I like Doddude's idea.(Where the fuck did I get Fedquip?) If we can't use the name YouTube, then webcam works just as well. It still keeps the humor in it.


written by MarineGunrock  | 2 years ago | CH
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I seriously doubt we could get YouTube's permission ...

We could modify it, replacing YouTube with webcam. I liked this concept too:
http://www.videosift.com/talk/VideoSift-in-Vegas


written by dag  | 2 years ago | CH
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Have you tried spreadshirt? Maybe it will slip through there...
Or are you concerned about PrintMojos concern in general now?
Hmmmm, hard to say.

As for the first 100: contests seem like a good idea!
How about this one: A shirt for everyone with a rody in their avatar?

No but seriously: I will definitely join every contest this brings up just to get my hands on one of these!


written by maatc  | 2 years ago | CH
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We looked at spreadshirt, but I think they are flocked. The screen printing is sooo nice on this one. [caresses chest lovingly].


written by dag  | 2 years ago | CH
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I would like a Golf shirt with sifty in the small logo spot.

any tshirt would do.


written by Fedquip  | 2 years ago | CH
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Maybe you should reward your Top 15 sifters with a shirt.

I'm jes' sayin'.


written by mlx  | 2 years ago | CH
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She has a point. Nice Shirt

(read my mind)


written by swampgirl  | 2 years ago | CH
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I also like the "Online Video *Quality Control." Isn't that the "official" slogan?


written by firefly  | 2 years ago | CH
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I personally suggest we have a T-Shirt design contest. Winners get a shirt.


written by K0MMIE  | 2 years ago | CH
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I really like *Promote Videosift.com because it's a call to action and a stronger psychological message. Only the text needs to be much larger. I didn't realize how small it would be in this batch, but even in Dag's photo the smaller letters are almost illegible. They should be large, fat letters that span from near armpit to armpit (or side-breast to side-breast) for easy readibility from a distance.

Something like this would be okay too, but is it too verbose?
      VideoSift
   Online  Video
*Quality Control
Regardless of slogan, I wonder if it should be VideoSift.com instead of just VideoSift to insure we spread the "Hey this is a website you should be checking out" idea to the public at large.


written by lucky760  | 2 years ago | CH
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I say we just make up a new name if we cant use YouTube.

How about:
VideoSift.com
*quality MeTube

Oh and I second the TOP 15 user T-Shirt giveaway.
Wait, how many have you got again? 100? *cough*


written by maatc  | 2 years ago | CH
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I'm really liking the Top 15 Giveaway idea .

I think it should be VideoSift.com with what-ever we end up with.


written by Zifnab  | 2 years ago | CH
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/me wants that shirt! The top 20 idea sounds great
(I'd gladly pay also)


written by winkler1  | 2 years ago | CH
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: ) great shirt dag : )


written by deathcow  | 2 years ago | CH
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Does it come in thong?


written by karaidl  | 2 years ago | CH
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Yeah, I am pretty dead-set on getting me one a them, trial by errors, too! you know me, all is lawful, all is profitable.....I promise not to wear it to the U-Tube headquarters.....speakin' a which, print the thing U-Tube, everyone will know it's homonym, and you are Scott Free.....


written by choggie  | 2 years ago | CH
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p.s. Dag I think their response shows an obviously cool company.


written by deathcow  | 2 years ago | CH
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I'd also be up for paying for one - shipping as well!


written by MarineGunrock  | 2 years ago | CH
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they have to protect their trademark. it's not "cool" to lose your trademark.

a trademark is not the same as a logo.

the TM symbol means nothing whatsoever.

anyway, i always preferred simplicity, and positivity, so i proposed *promote

here's a mockup (dunno if this is how to link to a flickr photo but anyway let me know)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2316/1853997028_417e42951c.jpg?v=0


written by MINK  | 2 years ago | CH
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If this is infringement, the law is a sack of shit.


written by jwray  | 1 year 4 months 1 week ago | CH
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